Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:You're going to have to define what you mean by 'Jesus' to have any kind of meaningful debate here
a person who went to Jelusarem, taught many things, gathered followers, and died by Crucifixion.
Cthuhlu Dreaming Wrote:In addition, we already have existing threads debating this topic where much of this very same material has been discussed ad nauseum.
yes i know this. i actually went to Any Evidence For A Historical Jesus? and no one would listen to my evidence, so i posted this thread to start with these claims so they would have to choice but to address them.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem