RE: Self-Rejection, Self-Sacrifice, Self-Denial VS Egoism, Earthly Pleasures, Hedonism
February 26, 2025 at 4:04 pm
Quote:Why are the “Self- “ stuff in the thread subject highly encouraged even in a secular environment,Why wouldn't they be?
Quote:while the other 3 stuff are highly discouraged,...Self-Rejection, Self-Sacrifice, Self-Denial
Who says they're discouraged, and so what if they were, this is a privately owned forum after all?
Quote:we all know and live under capitalism, reject/sacrifice/deny self-interests just to pay bills or alternatively please “society”.
Nope, I don't agree.
Quote:Having a job that matches someone’s interests/passions is a pipe dream,
Not necessarily, and again so what?
Quote:Is “society” just a “secular God” because there’s also a heavy system of pressures, guilt and shame for not keeping up with the many imposed standards, roles, norms. And also perceived rewards for following what it deems desirable approved “status symbols”.
Secular god is an oxymoron, think the question through, and word it more clearly. Are you asking if modern capitalist societies are replacing theism? I doubt it, this seems overly simplistic to me.
Quote:Even after having rejected God, gods, spirits and all that, there’s no escaping pressures, guilt and shame
An odd straw man, I cannot of course speak for other atheists, but I don't base disbelief on the idea it will help me escape anything.
Quote:Why is the society so self-averse or self-“hating”.
What does that even mean, which society, and why would anyone want to indulge in "self hating"?
Quote:Quote:How does pursuing a hobby make me greedy or selfish?
Not my thoughts but society’s.
Society views hobbies as greedy and or selfish? I am dubious, and again, so what?
Quote:I don’t even know myself about the “greediness”, it’s coming from society, not my thoughts.
Well they are your thoughts clearly, you are making sweeping claims about society, but offering nothing, beyond your own opinion, to support those claims.
