RE: I will prove to you that God exists
April 8, 2025 at 4:06 pm
(This post was last modified: April 8, 2025 at 4:12 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 8, 2025 at 3:31 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(April 8, 2025 at 2:36 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: The irony of this they don't think mindless natural forces, minus any plan or intent or a physics degree causing a universe to exist with the all the conditions for life to exist is a miracle. Causing things to happen intentionally isn't miraculous.
Are your arguments here aiming to prove a Prime Mover only?
Do you have steps that get us from a God that intentionally creates the universe, to the Christian God specifically?
Do you conceive of this creator as a "personal God"? I've never been quite clear on how a Prime Mover and a Personal God go together.
Thanks.
A god that intentionally creates the universe is a "personal" god. Intent is "personal".
Deist's gods. Personal but not intervening. Theist's gods. Personal and intervening. The term doesn't refer to whether or not a given god is some specific persons "personal" god, it's just an archaic way of saying that the given god has characteristics or attributes we traditionally attribute to people, to personhood.
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