RE: I will prove to you that God exists
April 11, 2025 at 12:06 pm
(This post was last modified: April 11, 2025 at 12:25 pm by Sheldon.)
(April 11, 2025 at 10:11 am)Drew_2013 Wrote:(April 10, 2025 at 5:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Can we start a betting pool on how many of these questions will be answered?
Boru
Quote:Sheldon:
1. Why do you think the only two choices are:
a) Certainty no deity created the universe?
b) Belief in a deity?
2. Do you know what a false dichotomy fallacy is?
3. Do you understand that agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive?
4. Do you know what agnosticism means? (I only ask, as you misrepresented atheism several times)
5. If you don't know whether something is true, is it reasonable to believe it to be so?
6. If you don't know, and so don't believe, that any deity exists, what word(s) best describes you?
7. If some god claims can be disproved, but others not, but you still don't know the latter are true, what word(s) best describe you?
Quote:1) The universe was intentionally caused to exist or it was unintentionally caused to exist. If you claim that's a false dichotomy you need to explain why its a false dichotomy. The burden is on the person who makes a claim right?Those aren't the two choices in my question...and I never mentioned a false dichotomy in Q1, or made any claim, so a straw man straight out of the gate, and you haven't tried to answer. Strike 1...
Quote:3. Do you understand that agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive?
That's not a question its a statement.
So we're skipping number 2 then, that's strike 2. It most certainly is a question, but you have again not even tried to answer, so strike 3 then, and it's reasonable to infer the answer is no, else why the dishonest evasion.
Quote:5. If you don't know whether something is true, is it reasonable to believe it to be so?
If you don't know whether something is true is it reasonable to believe it isn't true? I didn't know for certain the sun would rise this morning but I believed it would. I believed the chair I'm sitting on would support me...I could be wrong, it may have worn down to a point it was on the verge of collapsing. I believe OJ killed his wife and Ron Goldman but can I be absolutely sure? No.
Ah we're skipping 4 as well, so strike 4. And you've not answered 5 either, just presented a string of false equivalences, that we actually do know. Strike 5.
Quote:7. If some god claims can be disproved, but others not, but you still don't know the latter are true, what word(s) best describe you?
Specify what claims you're referring to.
So we're skipping 6 as well, that's strike 6. And you've not answered 7, not even understood by that response. The question was what word(s) best describe someone under those circumstances. So 0 questions answered out of 7 then, I shan't even feign surprise.
I counted two logical fallacies repeated, a straw man, and a false equivalence. though to be fair the fact you used two more fallacies, does suggest an answer to number 2, albeit accidentally. You could have Googled 4 ffs. Ah well, no real surprises here.