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What is Justice?
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RE: What is Justice?
Quote:Would it be possible to incorporate all of them into a single demonstrative definition of justice?

No, I dont think so. Lets go over all of the sub definitions:

just = someones opinion

righteousness = someones opinion

equitableness = measureable results depending on what we are trying to equate

moral rightness = someones opinion

uphold the justice of a cause = someones opinion legislated

rightfulness or lawfulness = opinions that are legislated

as of a claim or title = opinions

the moral principle determining just conduct. = someones opinion

conformity to this principle, as manifested in conduct; just conduct, dealing, or treatment. = opinions that are legislated

the administering of deserved punishment or reward. = inforcing someones opinion

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So who's ideal are we measuring the consept of "justice" against? Surely some will consider the legislation of Christianity as fiting MANY of the definitions of Justice. In reality the vast majority of the idea of justice is merely based on the ideal it is applied to.

The only thing measurable in reality is "equitable". Economic justice fits together well as long as everyone makes the same amount in the economy. In times of hardship, rationing food equally to all can be a measurable form of justice. Somepeople think that they are better than others, or have worked harder than others which means they have a greater equal share than others - although this may be stretching the definition a bit, i am willing to allow it to be included.

As far as inforcing morality and such, some of it may be measurable. The number of arrests of homosexuals for the crime of sodomy comes to mind. Hunting down and punishing theives also come to mind...both can be considered moral justice, but only in the eyes of those who consider theives and homosexuals immoral. If someone believes that private property, and infact all property is commonly owned, then they do not consider anyone to be theives if they take what they want and when they want. In fact punishing theives to this person would be an injustice.

same thing with homosexuality. I am not a homosexual, but I find it to be an injustice to punish homosexuals. Others may find it to be a great justice.

In conclusion, I say that justice is merely an opinion. A belief. Something that cannot be proven to exist inherently in the cosmos. An ideal which is heavily influenced by the individuals intent.

In other words, justice is more than likely a figment of the human imagination.
Quote:Justice is the individual ideal of the collective.
I think this also stretches the concept. Individuality and collective diametrically oppose each other.

Perhaps if you could find another less confusing way to put your point across.
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What is Justice? - by Perhaps - January 3, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by jason56 - January 3, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 3, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Perhaps - January 3, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by jason56 - January 3, 2012 at 8:54 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 3, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Anomalocaris - January 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 3, 2012 at 8:59 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by jason56 - January 3, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Minimalist - January 3, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 3, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Perhaps - January 3, 2012 at 11:43 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 4, 2012 at 1:45 am
RE: What is Justice? - by Minimalist - January 4, 2012 at 12:03 am
RE: What is Justice? - by Perhaps - January 4, 2012 at 3:05 am
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 4, 2012 at 3:51 am
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Perhaps - January 4, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 4, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Minimalist - January 4, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 4, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 4, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 4, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Perhaps - January 4, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 4, 2012 at 6:53 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 4, 2012 at 8:39 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Perhaps - January 5, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Minimalist - January 4, 2012 at 8:57 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 4, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 5, 2012 at 1:04 am
RE: What is Justice? - by Minimalist - January 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Perhaps - January 5, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Minimalist - January 5, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 5, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Perhaps - January 5, 2012 at 11:44 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 6, 2012 at 2:11 am
RE: What is Justice? - by Perhaps - January 7, 2012 at 2:36 am
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 7, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Welsh cake - January 7, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by amkerman - January 7, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 7, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Blam! - January 7, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 7, 2012 at 10:27 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by Blam! - January 8, 2012 at 2:20 am
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 7, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by reverendjeremiah - January 8, 2012 at 12:05 am
RE: What is Justice? - by houseofcantor - January 8, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: What is Justice? - by KichigaiNeko - January 8, 2012 at 2:38 am

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