RE: [split] VckyRo pontificates about Communism (the kind with a big C)
January 5, 2012 at 10:18 am
(January 5, 2012 at 9:56 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:There were once jews in Turkey, like in İzmir, where the large elevator today stands, but according to my grandmother, they emigrated to Israel in masses on ships, when it was founded.(January 5, 2012 at 9:52 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:(January 5, 2012 at 9:22 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Perhaps it is because I am Australian and far removed from the source of irritation?? Namely Israel??
Well, it doesn't really matter if I live closeby. I'm not particularly concerned about Israelis or Jews, I never met a single one in my entire life.
Really?? Yet you hold such seemingly strong views. Or am i mistaken??
Maybe the reason you haven't met many is because they are all over here in Australia. I have met many over many decades and found them to be just nice people, same with muslims, hindus, xtians et al.
I think I have stated elsewhere that it is the "fundies" that irritate me the most. I don't go knocking on your door to "give you the good news" so I expect you not to do the same to me.
I hold strong views, but my views are not bent on harboring unnecessarily, over-emotional views of one foreign group. Those who build their views upon the dislike of some other group mostly find their ideology crumble after some time...Just like with the old MHP nationalists(we differ on some terms with them), who were opposed to communists, now they don't know what they actually are. We too, are opposed to communism, but it's gone now. We knew that it would not last forever, our founding fathers knew this already when they accepted help from the Soviets, however, did not turn communist as the Soviets expected us to be. Because they knew it would not last.
So, why harbor any dislike towards Israel for any reason? It's obvious that after some time, the situation will settle, and the Israel-arab thing will fade into obscurity by one or the other means.
Jews...Well, we're actually supposed to be on better terms with them, if not being too friendly, than our former subjects, and we helped them in the past on a few occasions, so we go a while back, but really, I do not expect gratitude, as we certainly have no need for it, nor do I wish that we socialize too much with their kind, as we do with the arabs now. Not on a personal level, of course, but on like a national level.
The current government is being too friendly towards them, as we had an obligation to be their saviours, and we certainly do not, not while our own brothers are under attack.
My own opinion is, that we should be neutral with those whom do not present a threat to us, or any of our kin, and hostile with those who hold our brethren in bondage. Today, it's quite the reverse, we're on good terms with Iran, Russia and China, and on bad terms with Israel and Arab countries. It makes no sense.
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