(September 16, 2025 at 10:36 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote:(September 16, 2025 at 10:24 am)Angrboda Wrote: Whether it exists in fact is irrelevant to the question of whether greater freedom of speech is desirable or good. That speech can be used for ill as well as for good is not an argument against it, any more than that guns can be used for ill is an argument for the elimination of guns.
It is relevant because clowns are trying to appeal to right that does not exist; free speech isn't universal "get out of the jail card". Even stereotypically free USA restricts it quite heavily if Wikipedia is to be believed. "Free speech" is nothing but empty phrase weaponized by right wing that want to have right to spread bigotry and yet cries when is faced with any criticism. It's regulated speech all the way, except perhaps in fallen states.
I'm all for regulated speech as letting fascist to get away with spreading hatred results in shit we see all over the world. I don't really give a shit if it is idea that some will not like - fascist trash, alt right scum or maoist cunts (along with plain racists or other similar scum) should be censored, fined and in final step jailed. Free speech may sound nice in theory (like communism) but in reality it results (or help to get them in power) in orbans, trumps or kaczynskies.
It results in bad things, it also results in good things. That it results in bad things is not by itself an argument against it.
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