(November 25, 2025 at 12:45 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What you're witnessing there is a contemporary nutter imagining that the proto-christians were seeing what they now believe to have been prophecy fulfilled. This was emphatically not the case at the time. They wigged out about this to the point of killing each other, nearly strangling christianity in the crib in the process.
Hi there. I would be the “contemporary nutter”. Vaguely channelling N.T.Wright...
C1 Israel was expecting God to keep His promises: return to Israel, sort out that whole death thing, inaugurate His Kingdom, bring forgiveness for His people.
For sure, the Early Christians went back to the OT to make sense of what had happened, we agree on that. Why they would want to do this if nothing had happened is an important question.
No-one had connected the suffering servant with the defeat of God’s enemies. The bits about three days were vague at best. There were things about bodily resurrection, but no-one agreed on what they meant. And so on.
However after Easter, they could see exactly how God had done what He said He would in the OT. Those who saw the resurrected Jesus, saw prophecy fulfilled.
