RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2012 at 3:16 pm by Shell B.)
Quote:For the sake of an interesting conversation:
Interesting like a nail in the head.
Quote:If you can make the claim that we experience reality, then you should be able to assert that reality is real. Correct?
Here is the problem, Perhaps. You are making a different argument than acke. He is saying you must believe it. He makes absolutely no allowances for people whose thought processes are different. Furthermore, even your argument is fucked up in that you would have to take experiences for reality for that argument to work. Some people experience reality and know they are experiencing reality, but do not think of it as real. You also have to define "reality." Are we talking about perceived reality or what is really real? That's an important distinction, given the schism between really real and perceived apparent in this thread.
Quote:From this you are then able to say that if reality is real because I experienced it, what allowed me to experience it?
That's not how his argument went. We're at a standstill again.
(January 6, 2012 at 3:08 pm)Perhaps Wrote: [Edit] Shell, I don't think you need to be as harsh with him as you are being. Its a simple argument, it shouldn't include the person's character.
Fuck you. Read everything that he wrote in here. I am treating him with the same disdain he is treating others. I just happen to use language that crybabies don't like. Grow up. Swears are words, so are condescending attitudes that exclude swears.
