RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
January 6, 2012 at 4:44 pm
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2012 at 4:45 pm by amkerman.)
Shell maybe I am misstating universal constants. I know of nothing which science believes exist without observation besides universal constants. If you are claiming that scientific discoveries dictate reality I would suggest you have just replaced "God" with "Science".
I believe there are forces which created the universe and everything within it. Science attempts to explain the universe in purely mechanical terms yet offers little speculation on how physical forces were able to create a nonphysical consciousness. It just says, after a certain number and type of complex physical interactions something nonphysical, that is consciousness, magically pops into existence. That theory is not acceptable to me. I am of the opinion that the nonphysical, or some combination of physical and nonphysical must have always existed. I am attempting logical proofs which support my hypothesis because the science is not readily available for me to test.
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1)All of reality is experienced through consciousness.
2)THEREFORE: If you believe in reality you must believe consciousness is real.
3)Things that are real must exist apart from our observation of or ideas about what they are.
4)THEREFORE: If consciousness is real it must exist apart from sciences observation of or ideas about it.
5)The only things science believes exists apart from it's observation or ideas about are universal constants.
6)THEREFORE: If consciousness is real science believes it is a universal constant.
7)Universal constants are believed to be responsible for the creaton of the universe and everything within it.
8)THEREFORE: if consciousness is real it is responsible for the creation of the universe and everything within it.
9)If consciousness is responsible for the creation of the universe and everything within it, it could be called "God"
10)THEREFORE: If you believe in reality you must necessarily believe in "God".
I believe there are forces which created the universe and everything within it. Science attempts to explain the universe in purely mechanical terms yet offers little speculation on how physical forces were able to create a nonphysical consciousness. It just says, after a certain number and type of complex physical interactions something nonphysical, that is consciousness, magically pops into existence. That theory is not acceptable to me. I am of the opinion that the nonphysical, or some combination of physical and nonphysical must have always existed. I am attempting logical proofs which support my hypothesis because the science is not readily available for me to test.
Quote:
1)All of reality is experienced through consciousness.
2)THEREFORE: If you believe in reality you must believe consciousness is real.
3)Things that are real must exist apart from our observation of or ideas about what they are.
4)THEREFORE: If consciousness is real it must exist apart from sciences observation of or ideas about it.
5)The only things science believes exists apart from it's observation or ideas about are universal constants.
6)THEREFORE: If consciousness is real science believes it is a universal constant.
7)Universal constants are believed to be responsible for the creaton of the universe and everything within it.
8)THEREFORE: if consciousness is real it is responsible for the creation of the universe and everything within it.
9)If consciousness is responsible for the creation of the universe and everything within it, it could be called "God"
10)THEREFORE: If you believe in reality you must necessarily believe in "God".
