(January 7, 2012 at 6:09 am)chipan Wrote: no, people do follow rules for more than just that reason. they follow them because: they were taught to, they don't want to do harm to others, and they have a conscious ect. however, there are no consequences for their actions above human and health consequences. if they don't get caught, and they don't compromise their health, they don't have any consequence.
As far as I know, people (unless they're psychopaths/sociopaths) feel guilt when they do wrong - you know, the whole conscience thing you mentioned. If you don't see that as any kind of consequence then you've obviously never felt it before.
Quote:too general. and it sounds like what the bad guys did in the movie "In Time" was justifiable with this definition. good movie btw if you didn't watch it.
No I've never seen it.
And quite frankly, I don't care if you think it's too general but I will expand anyway:
My purpose in life is to be happy and to make the people I love happy. To raise my son with good values and joy. To love my friends and help them when I can. They may not be what you call worthwhile purposes, but they're good enough for me.
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well what moral code do you have above humanism? what purpose do you have above society?
The only thing I know for sure is what's here now, so why should my moral code need to be above humanism? Why should my purpose need to be above society? If you want to believe that you'll be punished or rewarded for all eternity for what you did during a time that amounts to less than a blink in the big scheme of things, fine. But don't tell me I should - I'll be happy with this life that I know exists.
"No-one who decides that scientific evidence is not for him and that his own experience or the stories of others is the be all and end all of deciding what's true ever has the right to call people searching for reliable, repeatable evidence narrow-minded. That is hypocrisy of the most laughable kind." Derren Brown - Tricks of the Mind.
