(March 23, 2026 at 8:16 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: There's a system that has moral facts but doesn't tell you what is moral? Sounds screwy to me.
That might be an effect of subjectivist deontological contamination. Gods hand down lists and people call it "moral", so when you go looking for "morals" in the world you're looking for that subjectivist list. What if I told you those people were very motivated to get it wrong?

Lets talk about one. Jainism. There are good reasons to think about what we eat and how it's produced. Unfortunately, jainism says that good reason is souls. So, no animals, sure..but also no mushrooms or garlic or potatoes. Bad luck to some poor sap who lives in a place where you have to depend on root vegetables to survive. Guess god fucked that one up.
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