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Assisted suicide?
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RE: Assisted suicide?
(January 8, 2012 at 7:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: If you're old and terminally ill, you'll probably check in with your wife and kids aswell. So I don't think that this is a choice you'll be taking on your own.

In most cases it won't be a choice you make alone, that's true - not only that, but we should encourage people who are suicidal (terminal or otherwise) to seek advice, councilling and not rush to any harsh decisions - that being said, it's a very different thing to say that 'we should encourage people to seek advice/discussion' and 'we're not going to allow people to make this choice'

Quote:But if you're like healthy and all, and want to end your life by jumping off somewhere or putting a bullet to your head, I think it'd be even more fitting if the government sentences you to life posthumorously, for ending your life despite the fact you had responsibilities and family connections.

What a fucking tyranny. People are only going to suffer longer before killing themselves in prison.

Also, what use is a man in prison for life to his wife and children? No more valuable than a dead man, but the downside is his family now know he's powerless to end his own life and will have to suffer for potentially decades for it.

Quote:Such selfish people are never remembered with good words.

You've never been to a funeral for someone who killed themselves then? Trust me, it's much like any other funeral.

And even if it were the case that no persons who end their own life are remembered with 'good words', so what?

Quote:This is just bullshit. Let's see, you go and have a family, and these people depend on you, but some day, you suddenly come and kill yourself, leaving a heap of bills for your wife and children to clean up. What did you really archieve? Nothing.

Actually, you achieved "not living". Yeah it's a harsh fate for the wife and kids, but that in and of it's self does not mean that you do not own your own life just because it disadvantages someone else.

Nobody here is going to argue that it isn't a tragedy for the family, but this should only give us more reason to attempt to persuade people to hold in for as long as they can bear.

You also have to remember that this isn't some casual decision for the people who want to die, in most cases life for them feels so unbearable that they aren't much use to anyone as is. A severely depressed person is very often unable to work and provide an income for their families.

Quote:I've been hearing more and more of such things on TV news. People killing themselves over credit card debts...
It's their decision alright, but it's not their damn right to do this.

Now you're making claims about rights but I haven't seen you produce one shred of value theory or moral philosophy to support this - You DO NOT get to decide what people's rights are simply because you fell strongly that they're doing something wrong, and you DO NOT get to decide that people loose their individual sovereignty simply because someone else's life is better because of their existence.

If you want to try and solve this problem the correct way you should give money to suicide support groups and education programs to attempt to persuade them to freely make other decisions because forcing people to make decisions that you want them to make is tyrannical and immoral.
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Messages In This Thread
Assisted suicide? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Minimalist - January 5, 2012 at 8:09 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Erinome - January 5, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by frankiej - January 5, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Minimalist - January 6, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Cyberman - January 6, 2012 at 12:05 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by 5thHorseman - January 5, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2012 at 8:23 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Jackalope - January 5, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Jackalope - January 5, 2012 at 9:15 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2012 at 9:25 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Minimalist - January 5, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by padraic - January 5, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by padraic - January 5, 2012 at 10:06 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by KichigaiNeko - January 5, 2012 at 10:10 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Minimalist - January 6, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by padraic - January 5, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Michelle_Patton - January 5, 2012 at 11:44 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Diamond - January 5, 2012 at 11:55 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Minimalist - January 6, 2012 at 12:14 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by KichigaiNeko - January 6, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Cyberman - January 6, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Jackalope - January 6, 2012 at 12:54 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by jediphobic - January 6, 2012 at 1:47 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Jackalope - January 6, 2012 at 2:11 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Cyberman - January 6, 2012 at 1:54 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Minimalist - January 6, 2012 at 1:57 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by jediphobic - January 6, 2012 at 2:09 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Cyberman - January 6, 2012 at 2:19 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by jediphobic - January 6, 2012 at 2:23 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Jackalope - January 6, 2012 at 2:35 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Cyberman - January 6, 2012 at 2:33 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by jediphobic - January 6, 2012 at 2:43 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Jackalope - January 6, 2012 at 4:21 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by The Magic Pudding - January 6, 2012 at 5:29 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Jackalope - January 6, 2012 at 6:40 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by KichigaiNeko - January 6, 2012 at 5:43 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Faith No More - January 6, 2012 at 6:07 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by The Magic Pudding - January 6, 2012 at 8:20 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by KichigaiNeko - January 6, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by fr0d0 - January 6, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by The Magic Pudding - January 6, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Minimalist - January 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by fr0d0 - January 6, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Welsh cake - January 6, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Napoléon - January 6, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by frankiej - January 6, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Minimalist - January 6, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Welsh cake - January 7, 2012 at 6:39 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by theVOID - January 7, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by kılıç_mehmet - January 7, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by theVOID - January 8, 2012 at 1:59 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by kılıç_mehmet - January 8, 2012 at 7:35 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by theVOID - January 8, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Napoléon - January 8, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by kılıç_mehmet - January 8, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Napoléon - January 8, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by kılıç_mehmet - January 8, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by 5thHorseman - January 8, 2012 at 7:50 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by kılıç_mehmet - January 8, 2012 at 7:58 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by kılıç_mehmet - January 8, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: Assisted suicide? - by theVOID - January 9, 2012 at 2:35 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Sybyl Walker - January 10, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: Assisted suicide? - by Napoléon - January 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm

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