RE: Any Evidence For A Historical Jesus?
January 9, 2012 at 6:08 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2012 at 6:16 pm by DeistPaladin.)
(January 9, 2012 at 4:03 pm)Fpvpilot Wrote: Hi, DeistPaladin,
I agree that “argument from silence” is not a logical fallacy in the event that we should reasonably expect to find evidence. However, I previously explained how the Christ-Myth proponents’ use of the argument from silence was faulty.
Let’s wait and see what Min says in response to my invitation.
I've posted on forums with Min for many years now and I can vouch for him that it's quite believable that he is exhausted from dealing with the same canned arguments again and again. We've heard about The Annals of Tacitus, Testimonium Flavianum, the Jamesian Reference and the Letters of Pliny. We've also heard Liar, Lord and Lunatic, "Would the Die for a Lie?" and many other cliches frequently cited by Strobel, McDowell et al. Having the same discussion over and over does wear you down.
If he declines, I'm a bit more fresh. I'm not as versed in ancient history as Min is, however. I'll be using the Bible as my primary source.
(January 9, 2012 at 5:44 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: it's a no, but DiestPaladin will, so get it on.
One of the rules I want to make clear from the get-go is I'm going to use the Bible (sorry to beat this to death but I want to be clear). Any admission from the other side that the true story of Jesus bore no resemblance to the Gospel character or that his ministry was nowhere near as famous as the Gospels relate will be effectively conceding the debate.
I have no intention of debating the lack of existence of "some guy named Yeshua who lived in 1st century Judea" or some other poorly defined Jesus-of-the-Gaps.
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