Any Evidence For A Historical Jesus?

[Fpvpilot]

I am still a bit unclear regarding whether or not you accept the conditions that I specified.

Sorry, was there a part of "you're not going to sucker me" that was unclear?

Please confirm if you would be willing to debate on the following topic or not:

Jesus was a Jewish man who was crucified under Pontius Pilate’s authority during the reign of Tiberius Caesar and Jesus was a reputed miracle worker.

Please let me know if your answer is yes or no.

There was not just one Jewish leader who fit that description but many.

Pilate was notorious as a governor, brutal even by Roman standards, who killed a great many Jews according to both Philo and Josephus. There were also many doom criers, many messiah wannabes and many alleged miracle workers. Since "Yeshua" was a common name, I have little doubt that we could dig up several that fit your vague description.

The answer was and is "no".

My counter offer is to debate you on the existence of a historical Jesus, the bare minimum of which must include a successful ministry similar to the one accounted for in the Gospels.

If you answer "no", I'll take that as an admission that the Gospels are myths, nothing more.

Hi, DeistPaladin,

That is fine. Thank you for the clarification. I have no intention on establishing whether or not the Gospels are historically accurate overall, because that is not the topic of this thread. I, therefore, rescind my offer to engage in formal debate.

Out of curiosity, who were those other miracle workers and people who claimed to be the messiah? I am aware of some Jewish figures who promised to perform miracles, but none that actually purportedly did so. Also, which sources mention them? Please give precise citation details.

Kind regards,

Fpvpilot

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This is my farewell post. I wish everyone here the very best in 2012. Hopefully, I will be able to visit with you again when more time permits. Thank you for the dialog.

Kind regards,

Fpvpilot