RE: Any Evidence For A Historical Jesus?
January 10, 2012 at 9:41 pm
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2012 at 10:04 pm by Fpvpilot.)
(January 10, 2012 at 9:23 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(January 10, 2012 at 9:13 pm)Fpvpilot Wrote: Are you saying that you believe those figures existed and that the Gospels attributed miracles to them? Or, are you saying that those figures never existed and that they were not reputed miracle workers?
I'm not saying who did or did not exist. I'm saying your vague wording allows for many scenarios, including false stories about real persons, true stories about real persons, exaggerated stories about real persons, or even stories about mythical characters. Hercules was "reputed" to have performed miracles.
Okay. So you are not saying those particular individuals necessarily existed. Who were the other first century people claiming to be the Messiah and the other first century Jewish miracle workers that you alluded to, then? Also, when did the Yeshua that you mentioned live? Please cite the relevant sources for each of your assertions.
Thanks,
Fpvpilot
(January 10, 2012 at 9:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I always enjoy this essay by Richard Carrier whenever this particular variant of the bullshit story comes up.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/r...kooks.html
Here is Glenn Miller’s review of Carrier’s web article, too, if anyone is interested:
http://christianthinktank.com/mqfx.html
Kind regards,
Fpvpilot