RE: Book of Acts: Pure Fantasy
January 19, 2012 at 9:36 am
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2012 at 10:34 am by DeistPaladin.)
(January 19, 2012 at 3:48 am)apophenia Wrote: You can, but doing so will just make you look like an idiot. I realize that many atheists have internalized the notion that the burden of proof is always on the theist, because that's what they always hear, but that's not the case.
You've just declared that "argument from ignorance" isn't really a logical fallacy.
To defend the worldview that there's all kinds of sorcery, divine communication and other woo all going on but all of it has somehow stealthily escaped the notice of modern society and to defend this view with the charge that I must prove it impossible is to unabashedly use the argument from ignorance. No offense but you're running dangerously close to earning a spot on my signature quote list below.
Did I mention we're talking about MERE MORTALS using magical powers? Not even necessarily with the assistance of gods, as heretics like BarJesus could also work "signs and wonders" on their own? We're way past theism-vs.-atheism here. We're talking about the capabilities of human beings like ourselves. Acts makes claims about the nature of the universe that go way beyond asserting the existence of a personal god, claims that run contrary to the way the universe is observed to work in our modern day.
All I've asked is for believers like Godschild to put up or shut up. Either say it's all true (and be laughed out of the room) or walk away from defending it (and thereby admit the Bible has erred).
Quote:Anything else, imho, is either sophistry or stupidity.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I think we're really at the point where we need to agree to disagree. You've made your point and I've made mine. I'll let the readers decide whether or not my position is stupid.
(January 19, 2012 at 3:54 am)Stimbo Wrote: I apologise for any incoherence in what follows, I am technically refraining as much as possible from contributing due to being in the midst of a depressive episode.
I feel for you as I'm going through something similar myself. These are depressing times we're living in.
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