Thoughts on Buddhism

[Abracadabra]

According to science (and our precious logic as well), nothing can appear out of nothingness. Yet we exist. The universe exists. Therefore the very existence of the universe itself is indeed a "magical" event.

Argument from ignorance. Science claims it is currently UNKNOWN what conditions were like before the big bang.

That is a far cry from "nothing"

You're thinking of the Big Bang as being a critical point in time.

Forget about that.

How did anything ever get started in the first place?

If something preexisted the Big Bang (like quantum fields or whatever), then from whence did they come? And so on, etc, etc, etc.

What I'm saying is that very fact that anything exists at all is "magic".

Existence itself defies our conception of "logic". So anyone who proclaims otherwise simply isn't thinking deep enough.

To proclaim that "magic doesn't exist" and to try to support that as having some sort of scientific merit is nothing short of utter absurdity.

I was responding to what Rhythm wrote:

Reincarnation is not hard to swallow, it is a magical force that exists in fairy tales, not reality. Karma is not a simple mechanism of life, it is magic, and there is no evidence that magic is a mechanism of life at all, simple or otherwise. In fact, magic does not exist.

"In fact, magic does not exist?"

What fact?

Where has it been established scientifically, or in any other way, that magic does not exist?

It's not a fact. it's merely an opinion that has no scientific merit at all. Nor could such a statement be scientifically supported.

That's what I'm responding to.

No one can say that its a 'fact' that magic doesn't exist. Nobody knows whether that idea has any merit or not. I personally suggest that the mere fact that anything exists at all is proof that magic does exist.

It's proof enough for me.

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It does seem contradictory that it is OK for religions to claim that a "creator deity" made the universe out of nothing but is is not ok for science to state (accurately) that we currently do not know what was before the 'big bang'

Wird

That's not contradictory at all. A "creator deity" is supposed to be a magical being. That's the whole point to it.

Moreover, it most certainly is ok for science to state (accurately) that we currently do not know what was before the 'big bang'. That most certainly is true.

What I was objecting to was the statement "In fact, magic does not exist"

What?

Bull crap. There is no scientific support for the claim that, "In fact, magic does not exist"

That's merely a personal opinion that has no basis in science whatsoever.