RE: Do you believe in god or math?
February 3, 2012 at 9:50 am
(This post was last modified: February 3, 2012 at 9:52 am by Abracadabra.)
(February 3, 2012 at 9:24 am)CliveStaples Wrote: Well, I'm a math nerd so I like any conversation about set theory or whathaveyou.
Ok, well let's talk just a little bit about set theory and see if we have even remotely the same idea of what it even emtails.
I would like to ask you the following questions just to get an idea of where you're coming from.
1. When do you believe that set theory first became a rigorous mathematical concept.
2. Who, if anyone, do you associate with introducing this concept formally to the mathematical community. (Feel free to name multiple mathematicians if you like)
3. Do you believe that the basic idea of a set was a required intuitive concept prior to this formalization?
4. What is the formal mathematical definition of number in general?
If you believe there is more than one formal definition of number please explain as many as you can. (briefly) You can assume a simple cardinal definition here of the "Natural Numbers" or possible include a definition of Real Numbers if you like. You don't need to go off in la la land, speaking to the issues of imaginary numbers, complex numbers, irrational numbers, and so on. Let's try to keep this relatively basic. No need to make a essay out of it. I'm not going to pick at it. I'm just curious of how you think of these basic concepts.
5. What do you believe is the formal definition of the Number One?
(feel free to give more than one definition if you like)
6. How would you define a "Set"?
I have more questions, but these would be an interesting place to start.
(February 3, 2012 at 9:36 am)Rhythm Wrote: Meh, for what it's worth, I don't think you're griping, just fundamentally incorrect.
You don't even have a clue what I might propose and you already think I'm fundamentally incorrect.
That's funny.
Christian - A moron who believes that an all-benevolent God can simultaneously be a hateful jealous male-chauvinistic pig.
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
~~~~~
Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
