(February 3, 2012 at 10:57 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: Which brings us back to why it's not happening today? "It is. I saw it on the 700 Club" is not sufficient evidence to convince me that it's happening today.
(February 3, 2012 at 1:17 am)brotherlylove Wrote: Quote:
I have prayed for you to receive a sign, and faith.
..you're wasting your time.
Interesting isn't it that you seek after a sign but say "don't bother" when I ask God to give you one. Perhaps this may shed some light on why you haven't yet seen anything that would convince you.
I'll ask you this. Are you interested in knowing the truth, regardless of what it is?
(February 3, 2012 at 10:57 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: God told me that It doesn't want to take away your free will. You've already been given the Truth through the Gift of Reason. Life is a test. If you die still believing these false, terrifying and silly stories about God, you'll be condemned to spend thousands of years writing "I won't believe silly superstitions" over and over again on a blackboard while I'm in paradise enjoying my three bisexual wives and one bisexual husband. Do you really want to take that chance?
Oh, and God says he was a charlatan.
God has just told me It agrees but that the process isn't finished yet. Our evolution is still unfolding. It said that It won't "spoil the surprise" of how this all ends but has hinted that there will be "intelligent life" on this planet one day.
God wanted me to ask you who said It was omniscient? or omnipotent? or perfect? It turns out God is a lot more modest than Its reputation would suggest.
God says..
Your God isn't omniscient, so what would He know? Oddly, you seem to believe that we could be omniscient (acquire infinite knowledge) but the God whom you believe in is not. Why could we potentially be omniscient but your God cannot be?
(February 3, 2012 at 1:17 am)brotherlylove Wrote: However you want to chop up your "mysterious mind", you are posulating intelligent design and special creation.
(February 3, 2012 at 10:57 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: God doesn't preclude evolution. In fact, deism dovetails nicely with evolution. We are "rational animals" as one deist once said, long before Darwin's discoveries.
Regardless, it is still special creation and intelligent design, whether life was designed to appear on the scene immediately or gradually evolve over time. The Universe was clearly programmed to create life, and that is design. So yes, I would say your ideas about the Universe contradict pretty much everything modern science believes about the way the Universe works.
(February 3, 2012 at 10:57 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: Evolution doesn't preclude God but it does disprove a perfect or omnipotent god.
I agree with you, evolution would go a long way towards disproving a perfect or omnipotent God. Why do you believe evolution has occured, specifically?
(February 3, 2012 at 10:57 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: How so? If it exists, it can be observed. If it can be observed, it can be studied. If it can be studied, it can be understood. If it can be understood, it's part of the natural universe.
If God is a finite being who is constrained by laws then yes, we could study Him and perhaps understand Him. But if God is an infinite being unconstrained by laws the only way we could understand Him is if He explained everything to us. What exactly do you believe about this God? Is He outside of time? Did He create the physical laws? Is He constrained by them? Is He eternal?
(February 3, 2012 at 10:57 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: An omnipotent god wouldn't need evolution or millions of years to accomplish it all.
Why do you believe in millions of years, specifically?
(February 3, 2012 at 10:57 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: But I have heard the Gospel. I can probably quote it better than any Christian. I don't believe it. But I need to believe it in order to receive the Holy Spirit. But only by receiving the Holy Spirit can I believe it. Catch 22.
"So, as the Holy Spirit says: "Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as you did in the rebellion"
You don't believe it because according to scripture you are resisting the Holy Spirit. When you hear the word preached you harden your heart towards it. It is not a catch 22, you are simply resisting what God is trying to tell you, and that is why you don't believe it.
Psalm 19:1-2
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.