RE: Book of Acts: Pure Fantasy
February 5, 2012 at 6:35 am
(This post was last modified: February 5, 2012 at 6:44 am by brotherlylove.)
(February 5, 2012 at 6:08 am)phurgawtin Wrote: Everything must have a creator... except the creator. Makes perfect sense.
Well, this gets right to the heart of the point we're debating at the moment. On the matter of origins, either something is eternal or the Universe came from absolutely nothing. If you don't want to argue the latter, you're looking at an uncaused cause. Some want to say the Universe is eternal, but as I have just brought up, the facts are stacked against it. Moreover, the evidence shows that time, space matter and energy are finite. Which makes the cause of the Universe timeless, spaceless, extremely powerful and transcendent. Does that sound like anyone you've heard of?
(February 5, 2012 at 6:34 am)Forsaken Wrote:Quote:No one designed the designer. God is an eternal being.
According to some versions of the Hindu belief, God came from a fire (Sada-Shiva [the supreme godhead] was born out of a single flame of fire; who then gave birth to other primary gods). So something did come before god, which rules out your idea of an eternal god. Now will someone explain how this flame came into being before the god himself.
(And before you go ahead can claim that Hinduism is wrong and Christianity is right, here is some facts for you:
1) Hinduism is much much older than Christianity
2) The Hindu scriptures, though many, are almost all in sync while trying to explain the origins of the universe. Far better piece of literature than the contradictory, evil and adult's only bible used by you Christians)
Disclaimer: I personally believe Hinduism as a pile of shit, though better quality shit than Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Judiasm is older. Hinduism dates back to 1500 BCE..Abraham lived 1800 BCE..Moses wrote the Torah in 1400 BCE using scriptures/oral traditions passed down from that time (and earlier).
Psalm 19:1-2
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.