RE: urge to pray - advice/help
February 5, 2012 at 7:48 am
(This post was last modified: February 5, 2012 at 7:48 am by ElDinero.)
(February 5, 2012 at 7:15 am)brotherlylove Wrote: This is a major misconception by atheists and Christians alike that the function of prayer is to ask for things, like material goods, financial blessings, etc. Jesus gave us very clear instructions about prayer:
When I pray I mostly ask God to do things for other people. Some of the things I ask for are healing for those who are sick, comfort for those who are struggling, and things of this nature. Specific requests for specific situations.
I don't think I said 'material goods', I said 'things you want'. If that extends to other people being healed, or comfort for those who are struggling, then so be it. My question stands: Do you think you get the things you pray for to any greater degree than I get the things that I HOPE for? Yes or no? If yes, prove it, and that there is a causal relationship between your prayers and the things that happen. If no, the efficacy of prayer is what?
Quote:If the Universe has no purpose, it has no inherent meaning. Everyone is simply dancing to their DNA. If there is no good and evil, nothing is really wrong, which means the holocaust would be good if everyone agreed it was. No chance of fairness, no justice..murders go free and righteous people die for no reason.
I should have known you'd be the sort of braindead idiot to trot out this tired argument. Your talk of justice is pathetically useless when in YOUR philosophy, a mass murderer could go to Heaven. For all your bleating about holocausts and justice, is it not true that ANY person could sincerely repent and be saved by Jesus, and be accepted into the kingdom of Heaven? Explain how this is fair and just.