Book of Acts: Pure Fantasy

[Whateverist]

It's widely agreed upon that time and space began with the big bang, and I've shown you the evidence, from as recently as last month, which shows the Universe had an absolute beginning. Why do you refuse to admit this? It's interesting that everything suddenly becomes really vague and unknowable when we're discussing facts that lean towards my explanation and away from yours. You're now satisified with ignorance as an answer and we can just assume anything could be true about origins, as long as it isn't God of course.

You may be more comfortable than I am in accepting arguments from authority. But not every cosmologist agrees that we inhabit a universe as opposed to a multiverse, this layman included. Think about it. How conclusive could any evidence be as to the origins of the uni- or multi- verse we inhabit. The vastness of space and time make certainty suspect. Remember, science isn't about verifying facts. Its about disproving assumptions. Even if a finite universe is currently most popular, only a theist would use that to argue the fact of the matter. The best theory is always provisional. I'm willing to leave it as an unsettled question. Your disposition toward certainty may make that less comfortable for you.

You have no trouble in believing in something eternal, but it is just an eternal being that you reject.

Well does that surprise you? Whether the whatever-verse and what gave rise to it and what gave rise to that and so on is infinitely old as I maintain or merely billions of years old, we both agree agree that the inorganic can be at least eons old. Now show me any creature/being of any kind that science has discovered which is any where near so old. I know about what is claimed about your favorite genie but that and other magical creatures are not widely accepted. So really old stuff is uncontroversially accepted but really old beings are not. I guess that is pretty much my problem with it.