(February 8, 2012 at 9:16 pm)padraic Wrote:Quote:The odds arent looking so good for this forum right now. And remember, unions rarely ever hold a ballot longer than a work day or 24 hours
You also need to remember that few unions have secret ballots. (at least they didn't when I was a rabid unionist)
In those days I was young and naive,fully supporting the notion of the closed shop (no union ticket,no start) That was before I discovered just how corrupt some union officials can be.
I also discovered the depth of bad faith with which BOTH sides usually negotiate. However, I remain a strong union supporter ,based one simple principle; If workers could trust their employers,unions would not be necessary.
Well said. Believe me when I say this but I am not one of those types of union officials. The unions were hijacked by racist bubba types as an inner club for trades in America. Once the anti-racist / sexist laws took effect you saw how quick it lost its appeal in America?
When the labor unions started they where nothing like they are now. When the haymarket affair happened. THAT was when the union was a real union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair
That was the birth of populist unionism (anarcho-syndicalism / socialism) in America. Not that communist Red Scare crap, but real trade oriented, bottom up management ideas.
How that turned into union bosses making 300 G's a year has pissed me off. We have lost something. We let them walk all over us now.
How do you like the businesses pledging 100 million just in ads for Mitt Romney... people out of work for months, hungry, getting kicked out on the streets... yet our "job creators" wasting 100 mil just on mud slinging political ads to buy our representation from us?
