urge to pray - advice/help

[brotherlylove]

No, it does not. Invoking tricksters only makes things more inexplicable, as you cannot determine what is their trickery and what is not (including your holy texts btw).

The same bible that tells us about the trickery is the same bible that tells us how to avoid it. An unknown enemy is far more effective than a known one.

"If a good god exists, Satan is limited"
There is no such thing as Satan, so that's garbage from the get-go.

"a good god exists".
Evidence?

"Therefore satan is limited"
There's alot of work you need to do to this argument before you can reach this conclusion, isn't there?

Apparently when you stated that no one could tell the difference between Gods work and Satans work, you didn't realize you were engaging into a hypothetical scenerio and that within this hypothetical Gods existence and Satans existence are assumed to be true.

As you would be unable to discern the difference between an agent of Satan and an agent of god. The bible is clearly the work of an agent of satan, out to malign god with easily dismissed fairy tales of acts he never performed, and promises he never made, all to make him look like an asshole...so that people like me would turn away, and not be saved. You, BL, are an agent of Satan. How does that taste? Again, you invoked the tricksters, and this is something that a trickster would, could, or may do (and before you respond with "the text says that demons cannot do this or that"..that verse is a product of demonic trickery..they don't want you to know what they can and can't do). Your decision to explain what is uncomfortable to you by way of imaginary beasties is childish, and presents more problems without actually answering any questions or explaining anything. Invoking "demons" as an explanation for something is intellectual laziness.

Again, an unknown enemy is more effective than a known one. If Satan wrote the bible he wouldn't have included himself in it, or any of the embarassing details of his fall from grace.

Again, if Satan does exist you would be unaware of it. You could only be completely unable to discern the difference. You might want to think about whether all the time and energy you have invested into fighting against Jesus Christ could possibly be justified. You might want to examine your reactions and see if there is any connection to reality there. When I was a nonbeliever, I thought pretty much the same things, that Christians (and anyone else who made supernatural claims) were just delusional. I didn't believe any of it was true, and therefore, I didn't waste any of my own time arguing against something I didn't even believe existed.

The reason I didn't act that way was because I wasn't truly resisting God, at least not to the point of blindly denying Him. I was open to the truth, whatever it was, and if that included Jesus, so be it. I didn't think it was likely to be what any of the religions said it was, but I wasn't closed minded to potential possibility of it.

What I think is that you probably have more than a clue about the existence of God. I am willing to wager that you have received signs from God that you are in denial about and try to explain away or just simply suppress. I've met many atheists for instance that have had out of body experiences but still deny they have a spirit. There is an atheist I am speaking to in this very forum who knows he has a spirit and he still denies there is a God. Even if you had a vision of Jesus in all His glory you would probably still deny Him, because this isn't really about evidence. It is about a rebellion against Gods authority and not wanting to give up the things that would have to change to submit to His Lordship.

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If a good god exists, we will be judged on our works rather than on something as trivial as believing in his existence
a good god exists.
therefore, we will be judg.... oh wait. Modus tollens.

We're judged for all the sin we have committed, such as lying, cheating, stealing etc, in which unbelief is simply one. It is what your salvation hinges upon, but sin itself is the reason for the judgement. Scripture says our good works are filthy rags before a Holy God..they don't justify us. It's only our faith that is counted to us as righteousness.

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If an all-good god exists (all good as in could not be evil or allow evil to exist) then there would be no Satan. Unless, of course, this god isn't all powerful.

Or God allows for evil because all things being equal, creatures that can freely choose between good and evil are preferrable to those who cannot.