Book of Acts: Pure Fantasy

[genkaus]

A change in many of those values would make life completely impossible, such as chemicals not being able to bond, no stars, no galaxies, no enough matter, etc. Whether there is some form of life that could potentially exist under some of these values is irrelevent, since we are talking about the sum of all of them..even if it were only a few of them, or even one of them, such as cosmological constant, you are still dealing with numbers bigger than the number of particles in the Universe. Neither do you have any evidence for any other sort of life; you just assume it is possible.

This is a good example of contradictory beliefs you Christians hold. On one hand you believe that life without specific material structure provided by the current universe is impossible. On the other hand, you believe that your life is independent of the material world (eternal life in heaven or hell). If you truly believe the latter, you simply cannot argue that no life would or could be possible without this specific set of universal constants

I don't think it's possible for them to be any other value than what they are, because they were created to be as they are. I don't have enough to faith to believe in self-creating Universes. I am simply arguing against the paradign that you believe in, which is that nothing created everything. In the scientific paradigm, it is certainly possible that the Universe could have been much different, which is why they have theories of multiple Universes.

I don't believe that "nothing created everything". That's because the concept of "being created" simply cannot apply to the universe.

But, since you don't think that these constants are tunable, then you cannot say that they were fine-tuned.

There is nothing to rule out a timeless efficient cause. If isn't an argument.

There is a timeless efficient cause. And that cause is the universe itself.

Something eternal exists outside time.

First of all, nothing can exist outside time. The very concept of existence is time-bound.

Secondly, that is an evasion, not an answer. If god is infinite and actual infinity cannot exist, then god cannot exist. If god exists then he is finite, i.e. limited and therefore not truly god but simply a superior being.

Because it isn't actually infinite? Why do you think a potential infinite means? An actual infinite is completed, a potential infinite is series that is only potentially endless

For generally the infinite has this mode of existence: one thing is always being taken after another, and each thing that is taken is always finite, but always different.

—Aristotle, Physics, book 3, chapter 6.

You can always add one more, but in the adding it is a finite number of things you are dealing wtih.

You do realize that Aristotle is talking about concepts regarding actual infinite, don't you?

Any concept regarding an actual infinite would be complete and therefore not be infinite. Therefore, any concepts regarding actual infinites can only exist as potential infinites.

No, they're not..see above.

Yes they are. Just because humans would never be able to count them all does not mean they are limited.

It's not arrogant to believe that the terms "morning and evening" in correlation to "the first day" refer to 24 hour days. You would have to work at misinterpreting it.

It is arrogant to believe that the planet the "morning and evening" were measured on was the earth. Because then you are automatically assuming that the planet was created for the express purpose of being a home to humans.

Are they more fragile than soft tissue? How is it that blood cells can survive intact for "70 million years" but stone tablets couldn't last a few thousand years? Could it be that the sacred cow of deep time is flawed?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...issue.html

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Obviously, the texts weren't fossilized. Fossilization is a rare even that takes place in nature, not in libraries. The environment these original texts were kept in weren't conducive to fossilization. And a good thing to. If they had been, only a few would have survived and a great amount of knowledge would have been lost. By copying rather than attempting preservation, they ensured that the knowledge would be passed on, even if the original medium is lost.