A Scientific Basis for Spirit

[Abracadabra]

See, again, your definition of free will and mine may be worlds apart. It's a loaded concept.

"I selectively ignore thoughts an a daily basis"-clearly But does that mean that you aren't having them? Does that mean that you can turn off thought itself? I haven't seen any reason to conclude that this is the case.

I've tried meditation (I've tried much, much more than meditation btw)..just doesn't do it for me.

I see your point.

No you can't turn thoughts off. But that's irrelevant to the point of this experiment.
This hypothesis was never to proclaim that you could.
The hypothesis was simply that you can choose to ignore thoughts.
The conclusion is that you must then be something other than thoughts.

At least that's the conclusion I accept from this experiment.
A conclusion that I actually believed in before even conducting the experiment.
Just the same this experiment vividly shows that it's clearly possible.

So nowhere did I say that you can turn thoughts off.
I simply said that you can ignore them.
Therefore you must not be your thoughts.

You must be something other than your thoughts.

That's the conclusion that I take away from this experiment.

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I gave my personal conclusions that I got from having done the experiment. Your conclusions may differ.

And evidently they do.

Wow - how very scientific. "Yes, gentlemen, my calculations clearly show that a line connecting a planet to the Sun sweeps out equal areas in equal times, in accordance with the conservation of angular momentum. You, however, may get different results and arrive at different conclusions; thus proving that I am right."

'Cos that's what Real Scientists do, right?

I'm not asking you to accept my conclusions.

This is why I proposed an experiment that you can personally do on your own.

You are more than free to conclude from it whatever you chose.

I'm just sharing that from this experiment I conclude that I am not my thoughts.

Your meditations may vary.