RE: urge to pray - advice/help
February 13, 2012 at 12:12 pm
(This post was last modified: February 13, 2012 at 12:18 pm by brotherlylove.)
(February 13, 2012 at 11:53 am)genkaus Wrote: You are not making any sense. Why would being hidden be the greatest advantage. It could be an advantage, but why the greatest advantage?
Do you know how many people in history have been defeated by underestimated enemies? A lot. How many have been defeated by unkown enemies?
Remember these words?: "Et tu, brute?" The most dangerous enemies are those you don't know are enemies. That is so obvious that to argue against it shows your desperation in trying to hold on to your illegitimate premise.
(February 13, 2012 at 11:53 am)genkaus Wrote: It would seem so. It seems nothing would veer you from the path of Satan set upon by your bible to the path of righteousness.
HE DID NOT.
That is a lie spread by Satan to deceive everyone. Think about it. Would god, the very epitome of justice, commit such a heinous act of injustice as to punish one person for sins of everyone else?
God will not forgive anyone who accepts - no reveres - such an immoral act as something good.
That is exactly what Satan wants you to think. So that you would stop trying to earn forgiveness altogether and therefore, never get it.
Thus spake Lucifer.
My heart weeps for you.
Oh lord, forgive this deluded child, for he knows not that the human mind is the most shining example of your divine glory and any insult to this divine creation of yours is an insult to you and your magnificence.
What am I saying? Do not forgive him. For he must learn that your forgiveness must be earned. Then and only then would this lost lamb finally be free of Satan's hold and his corrupting work - the bible.
BLASPHEMY.
How dare you accuse god of such injustice? Justice means giving to the person as he deserves. How dare you suppose that god's love would be given to you without you having done anything to deserve it?
How far has Satan corrupted you? Is there no distance you would not go not insult god, his holy magnificence and his holy creation.
Fool. Do you not realize that Satan cannot remain hidden. If he acts in the world, he will be known. The best he can do is to control how people see him. And he has done a magnificent job of it. He has the majority of world convinced that faith is the currency while dealing with god, not reason.
I wouldn't have thought this was clever even when I believed Christianity was untrue.
(February 13, 2012 at 11:25 am)Faith No More Wrote: 'Satan' is just the name used in this argument, but any trickster god could be deceiving you. You have no proof that the bible isn't a message intended to fool you. You only have your belief that it isn't, which has no bearing on reality. You can't use an argument(trickster god creating false religions) as proof of your god if any religion can do it.
It has a bearing on reality, it is backed up by scripture and my own experience. I also have 2000 years of history and 2 billion people who affirm my belief. You could say flying unicorns from mars are deceiving me but you don't have any grounds for saying it, and it isn't exactly a persausive argument when you are contending for things you don't actually believe yourself.
Psalm 19:1-2
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
