(February 16, 2012 at 8:01 pm)Darwinian Wrote:(February 16, 2012 at 7:56 pm)brotherlylove Wrote: The question isn't if things are designed, but rather what designed them. Was it chance natural processes or a superior intellect? If you think Universes just happen by themselves, then you have faith in a self-creating Universe. I don't think Universes happen by themselves, that they spring out of nowhere because of forces. I think the very idea is ridiculous. I think, when you look around you and consider what you see, you have to admit that life is deeper than any piece of finite knowledge that humans can come up with by themselves. That there is a grander meaning which speaks to us all, speech that resonates in the heart.
This reminds me of a quote by Carl Sagan.
Carl Sagan Wrote:The Universe is not required to conform to our expectations of it.
And..
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
That brings to mind a quote from Fred Hoyle:
A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
Psalm 19:1-2
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
