(February 18, 2012 at 4:39 pm)apophenia Wrote: You're mixing your specific interpretation in as a standard by which you measure other interpretations, without any justification as to why your interpretation is privileged above other interpretations.
Just look at the big picture.
There was a problem in the Garden of Eden.
A supposedly all-wise, all-benevolent, God steps in deal with the problem.
He delves out cruel and harsh 'punishments'.
Does this solve the problem?
No. The problem remains just as it always was.
In fact, you can go through the entire bible in this way and what do you see?
You see precisely the same scenario over and over again the whole way though.
God encounters a problem (i.e. people are supposedly sinning)
God intervenes with harsh violent crude forms of punishment or death.
Do he ever solve the problem?
No. His violent punishments never solve anything.
This is true all the way up the the crucifixion of Jesus.
Yet another "solution" based on violence and gore.
Did it solve anything?
Nope. Things are still the same as ever.
Moreover, according to these fables, even Jesus himself proclaims that the path is straight and the gate is narrow and only few will make it into the kingdom of God. Which necessarily means that the vast majority of souls that this creator creates are failures.
At the very best it's a fable about an extremely inefficient God who thinks that the only way to deal with problems is through violence and threats of violence, and he still loses the vast majority of souls that he creates.
Even if the tales were true it would be a story about a pathetic God who's violent solutions NEVER WORK.
Christian - A moron who believes that an all-benevolent God can simultaneously be a hateful jealous male-chauvinistic pig.
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!