RE: For Black History Month
February 20, 2012 at 2:46 pm
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2012 at 2:48 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
[quote='thesummerqueen' pid='242127' dateline='1329746677']
That would be because I saw "geek" but didn't see you say "greek" afterwards. I couldn't understand your pissiness.[quote]
Which is why I was like "what is summerqueen talking about?" It was a train wreck..total communication breakdown merely because I failed to notice an "R". Isnt it amazing how fast shit can fall apart?
[quote]No, his consistency is in trying to follow a system, be it an amalgam or not, that he thinks would be fair to everyone. I don't say that it's all consistent with itself or with all libertarian policies. I call myself a liberal or a centerist because I myself follow a mixture, as I'm sure most people on this board would say they do. That's fine if you confront him on inconsistencies in his logic or question his reasoning behind a statement or choice, but don't paint him up to be a secret racist asshole when you don't have all the facts or haven't heard his full story or even let him explain his case without making a judgment. Am I a racist for finding this whole topic ludicrous, even though I do believe in progressive social policies? I don't think you'll call me one.
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So me thinking that Tiberius might be a secret racist because he's all for letting people put up whites only signs, and even breaking out the dogs and firehoses on blacks who wish to do business with them "depending on how violent they are" is bad?
How about when Napolean said I was either blind or disengenuous? Are you upset at that as well? Im not, and I approached it and openly stood up for myself and corrected it with points....not by claiming I have a right to ignore him and that he is delsuional.
What am i supposed to think when someone is fine with "whites only" signs being put up? Even supports them to legally do it and have it enforced by the police?
If someone said "The vatican is its own entity, and if they want to rape little kids then that is their right. Of course I dont support raping kids, but the vatican has its rights to move their priests around other countries to avoid laws as well." then everyone on this forum would be all over the poster like flies on shit. Yet when someone says its okay to let people be racist in public business because they should have a right to do so, suddenly people on this forum come out in support of the person posting it...and people like me have to jump through hoops of philosophies, histories, etc...etc...to plead my case. I dont have to do that with the raping priests do I? Which one is worse? I good sized hand full of priests abusing some kids, or allowing certain businesses to effectively shut an entire group of people based on skin color out of the free market?
Now after this person posts that he is fine with enforcing whites only businesses, he turns around and makes a post that is critical of black history month. What am I supposed to think then? That he isnt racist? sure, if it was ONLY him complaining on history months it would be no problem to me. In and of itself it is merely a critique on an educational method. Remember, there is a history involved here. tiberius has openly supported rights to be publicly racist and for the police to enforce those rights. He opposes civil rights acts as they "impose on freedoms". tiberius has a history of just brushing up against and even crossing the racism line. This thread doesnt help my view of him and thinking more and more that he may very well be a secret racist...nor will I apologize for saying it, nor will I jump through hoops about it. I dont have all the facts, but I do have SOME facts, and the facts I have seen suggest racism to me, or at least a form of soft racism.
Tiberisu calls me "deluded" for thinking this way..but how can I be deluded about this when Tiberius has clearly said he is in favor of the police breaking out the hoses and dogs on people who oppose whites only signs and legalized racism.
Its not a delusion if you have evidence.
That would be because I saw "geek" but didn't see you say "greek" afterwards. I couldn't understand your pissiness.[quote]
Which is why I was like "what is summerqueen talking about?" It was a train wreck..total communication breakdown merely because I failed to notice an "R". Isnt it amazing how fast shit can fall apart?
[quote]No, his consistency is in trying to follow a system, be it an amalgam or not, that he thinks would be fair to everyone. I don't say that it's all consistent with itself or with all libertarian policies. I call myself a liberal or a centerist because I myself follow a mixture, as I'm sure most people on this board would say they do. That's fine if you confront him on inconsistencies in his logic or question his reasoning behind a statement or choice, but don't paint him up to be a secret racist asshole when you don't have all the facts or haven't heard his full story or even let him explain his case without making a judgment. Am I a racist for finding this whole topic ludicrous, even though I do believe in progressive social policies? I don't think you'll call me one.
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So me thinking that Tiberius might be a secret racist because he's all for letting people put up whites only signs, and even breaking out the dogs and firehoses on blacks who wish to do business with them "depending on how violent they are" is bad?
How about when Napolean said I was either blind or disengenuous? Are you upset at that as well? Im not, and I approached it and openly stood up for myself and corrected it with points....not by claiming I have a right to ignore him and that he is delsuional.
What am i supposed to think when someone is fine with "whites only" signs being put up? Even supports them to legally do it and have it enforced by the police?
If someone said "The vatican is its own entity, and if they want to rape little kids then that is their right. Of course I dont support raping kids, but the vatican has its rights to move their priests around other countries to avoid laws as well." then everyone on this forum would be all over the poster like flies on shit. Yet when someone says its okay to let people be racist in public business because they should have a right to do so, suddenly people on this forum come out in support of the person posting it...and people like me have to jump through hoops of philosophies, histories, etc...etc...to plead my case. I dont have to do that with the raping priests do I? Which one is worse? I good sized hand full of priests abusing some kids, or allowing certain businesses to effectively shut an entire group of people based on skin color out of the free market?
Now after this person posts that he is fine with enforcing whites only businesses, he turns around and makes a post that is critical of black history month. What am I supposed to think then? That he isnt racist? sure, if it was ONLY him complaining on history months it would be no problem to me. In and of itself it is merely a critique on an educational method. Remember, there is a history involved here. tiberius has openly supported rights to be publicly racist and for the police to enforce those rights. He opposes civil rights acts as they "impose on freedoms". tiberius has a history of just brushing up against and even crossing the racism line. This thread doesnt help my view of him and thinking more and more that he may very well be a secret racist...nor will I apologize for saying it, nor will I jump through hoops about it. I dont have all the facts, but I do have SOME facts, and the facts I have seen suggest racism to me, or at least a form of soft racism.
Tiberisu calls me "deluded" for thinking this way..but how can I be deluded about this when Tiberius has clearly said he is in favor of the police breaking out the hoses and dogs on people who oppose whites only signs and legalized racism.
Its not a delusion if you have evidence.
