(February 25, 2012 at 2:34 am)Carnavon Wrote: It never fails to amuse me to hear of some or other claim of proof “contradicting the Bible” which is later found to be based on false information – whether intentional or not.
I am sorry that I have seemed to miss some of your previous and very good questions. If there is anything in particular you would like to address, I will be too happy to respond. I appreciate the value of your questions.
What you say is clearly wrong. Contradictions in the Bible are contained directly in the text. There is no need to go looking elsewhere to reveal them. And once they are found there is no way to correct them because the stories cannot now be re-written. They are what they are.
I'm not going to re-type this every time so I've pasted a previous post of mine below:
In short, the fables claim that Jesus is the sole judge of men. But clearly Jesus himself was unaware of this at the time of his crucifixion. That's a blatant contradiction that cannot be removed from these broken scriptures. They will remain forever broken.
Moreover, John makes claims about Jesus that clearly aren't true base upon the very behavior of Jesus at Calvary. So once again, the scriptures are permanently broken and cannot be repaired short of re-writing the fables.
Here's a detailed account of precisely how we can know with absolute certainty that these fables are indeed broken and contradict their own stories. They cannot be the infallible word of any God, because they are clearly broken and contradict their own claims.
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The Scriptures Have Been Broken - It's a Done Deal:
John writes in this Holy Book:
John 3:18 He that believeth on him (Jesus) is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
I will demonstrate clearly that John 3:18 an outright contradiction.
First assume that John 5:22 is true (in these fables)
John.5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son
The Father Judgeth no man and all judgment has been committed to the Son (that would be Jesus in these fables)
At Calvary Roman soldiers who did not believe in "Jesus" as the only begotten Son of God, were forgiven by Jesus himself. They neither recognized Jesus as being divine, nor did they ask Jesus for forgiveness. On the contrary, they openly mocked him, beat him, and nailed him to a pole.
Yet according to Luke Jesus said the following:
Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
We have TWO blatant contradictions here.
The first being that Jesus was asking the Father to forgive these men. That contradicts John 5:22 and shows that Jesus himself was not aware that he was to be the sole judge of men.
So that's the first blatant contradiction. The scriptures have been broken right there.
The second blatant contradiction is that Jesus is forgiving these men based on a principle of his observation or belief that these men are not understanding what they are doing wrong. (i.e. They know not what they do).
Therefore, Jesus himself at this point in these fables is contradicting John 3:18 that anyone who does not believe in the name of the son of God is condemned already. Clearly Jesus is prepared to forgive these men even though they do not recognize the divinity of Jesus, nor are they asking to be forgiven.
So the scriptures are broken twice in this single event.
It's an easily twice-broken fable just in this one instance.
Of course I've recognized that these fables have been broken since at least the 3rd Chapter of Genesis, but that's a whole other story.
These New Testament Gospels are clearly broken. And the Christian demand that John 3:18 must be held up as the "Voice of Jesus" is false. In fact, John 3:18 isn't even John quoting Jesus, it's just John narrating his own personal opinions.
Clearly these scriptures are as broken as they can be and there is no resurrecting them.
So it's a done deal. The Christian Holy Scriptures have officially been broken. And the Christian claims that Jesus won't forgive anyone unless they recognize that he is the Lord of Lords and King of Kings is hogwash that cannot be supported by these broken fables.
Thank you for reading. And have great day!
Christian - A moron who believes that an all-benevolent God can simultaneously be a hateful jealous male-chauvinistic pig.
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!