Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right

[Shell B]

I thought your point was that you had a right to refuse vaccinations because it was your body. Apparently you do not.

Actually, you do. My point was never, "Throughout the history of mankind, human beings have always, everywhere, had the right to refuse vaccinations. It was always, "It is your body, you have the right to make informed decisions about it."

Or that policies of mandatory vaccination weren't the driving factor in the eradication of smallpox...apparently they were.

I don't see how you got that, either. My point was that it was not mandatory worldwide and yet it was still eradicated. You don't have to vaccinate people who will not come into contact with a virus. That's just fucking stupid. Now you're simply inferring what you can argue from arguments that are not what you are interpreting. I have always said that vaccinations are effective. I have always said that I am personally for them. I don't understand why you choose to argue those points when I never made them. You have to establish a reason why a forced vaccination that could potentially hurt someone is somehow better than letting that person get sick. If your argument is the great good, you have to establish why the greater good trumps individual good. It makes you and others happy isn't good enough. Why should one person sacrifice their happiness for anyone else if they do not choose to do so?

Or that we didn't go around giving every tom dick and harry within reach (even far beyond our own borders) vaccines, apparently we did. Just what was your point Shell?

No we didn't. Again, quarantines were often used in areas where vaccines were not mandatory and individuals refused them. What exactly was your point, Rhythm? "Vaccines are good!" Yeah, we got that. Are you ever going to establish why your will should be forced on someone else? Wasn't that your argument against the death penalty? Isn't that your argument against abortion policies?

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It should be noted that the effect of smallpox was not temporary.

Nope. So, you want me to make the choice for you? Possible death and scars or possible death and permanent neurological damage? The former is more likely, but I don't fucking care. I'm just going to decide for you. While I'm at it, since you think it is important, I'm also going to give it to your kids.

It is interesting to note that Britain appears to be the first place where it became mandatory. It also appears to be the last place there was an outbreak.

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If my opinion matters, I'd say that children perhaps should receive vaccinations for certain diseases such as..I remember the Turkish names of most..Well...Tuberculosis, for example. I got vaccinated when I was only little.

The CDC does not recommend a TB vaccination. In modern times, it is only a danger to those with weakened immune systems. Antibiotics worked wonders to eradicate the disease in many places. It also was not forcefully given.

For flu vaccinations, well, if there is an epidemic on the loose, only then, vaccinations may be made mandatory by the government and related departments, but other than, I think mandatory vaccinations should only be in schools, and maybe for workers of the public sector.

I completely agree. I would however edit that to say "if there is a deadly epidemic on the loose, individuals have a choice to get the vaccination and individuals who are sick should be quarantined.