(August 4, 2009 at 6:31 pm)bozo Wrote: Kyu, let me take you back to 1914-18 and imagine the 24 hour media you talk about, bringing war and propoganda to our screens. I suggest it would have portrayed our plucky volunteers going off to give Harry Hun a jolly good thrashing....probably until The Somme in 1916, followed by Pashendale, Ypres, Verdun etc. etc. The conscript troops who arrived after 1916 were vastly different to the ones who knew the score and just wished the war would end..quickly.
I'd suggest that if we had the media now in 1914 we'd get much the same as we get now ... media (along with an increasing emphasis on "rights", "liberalisation" and greater education) is what has changed us, made us more aware.
(August 4, 2009 at 6:31 pm)bozo Wrote: War doesn't change....it's about killing, done by the pawns in the game at the behest of politicians.
Did I say it had changed? What I was attacking was Pippy's view that wars can be [objectively] declared just or unjust (they can't for reasons already given) and that somehow war is unjust today (more recent history) a criticism that somehow doesn't apply to more ancient wars.
Kyu
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