RE: Do you believe in free will?
March 14, 2012 at 10:54 am
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2012 at 10:56 am by genkaus.)
(March 14, 2012 at 10:29 am)Rhythm Wrote: NP, so, no special cases. The worms behaviors and the plants behaviours are very much slaves to determinism. Why not the free will of a human being then (if we have one)? No special cases right..just "special consideration"?
Our behavior and actions are not free from causality either.
(March 14, 2012 at 10:29 am)Rhythm Wrote: Will requires a brain
Some brains are better than others
Effects aren't good enough
No special cases
It's starting to look real nice around here.
(ah, also, lets pick a creature other than ourselves then, which, by your definition can be said to have free will, sometimes it helps to make things impersonal. This way you won't feel that I am somehow criticizing your personal free will, whatever it means to you, and whatever value you've placed upon it.)
I gave a list.
(March 14, 2012 at 10:51 am)Rhythm Wrote: So then, a deterministic, not-so-free, or even truly free at all "free will". Sounds like we're in perfect agreement. Our behavior is more complex than the worm or the flower, but no more "free" except by redefinition of "free" as "complex". Correct?
No, free as in "free from external stimuli by the virtue of having a sense of self". If the worm had that sense, I would consider it to have free will as well.