The Magic of Atheism?

[Napoléon]

There’s only two ways to look at this.

No actually. There multitudes of ways to look at the universe, but I see where this is heading...

One is atheistic and suggests that for no reason at all

Not necessarily true. But even if it were, the problem with that is?

the entire universe popped into existence out of nothing with these particular properties in place for no reason. The only problem with that is that these four fundamental forces were needed before the universe existed. They were needed for the universe to have ever come into existence to begin with. They had to exist prior to it.

Says who? Are you giving us your expert opinion with a Ph.D. in Physics? I think not.

Atheists would have us return to ignorance.

The only ignorance around here is the shit you keep shovelling around these forums. Oh the irony.

They would say that this is simply unknowable

Dude where the fuck do you get off telling US what WE think/believe? Go fuck yourself.

and it’s unknowable because God can’t possibly exist

Where do you even come up with this stupid fucking logic?

even though the universe and its fundamental forces are inconceivable apart from an intelligent designer bringing it into existence.

Say whaaaaa? I always love that you guys moan and say that 'the universe had to come from somewhere' and that 'something doesn't come from nothing'. THEN WHERE THE FUCK DID YOUR DEITY COME FROM?

If God is not there, then the universe is magic.

Please stop with your use of irony. It's making me cringe.

It came into existence without the fundamental forces in place, either separately or as a grand unified force. The forces would have had to come after—even though they were needed before. That's magical thinking.

You know what's magical thinking? That some sky daddy made the universe with materials and matter that didn't even exist prior. Yeah. Magic.

Theists who understand even a little about cosmology are forced to believe in God, because that is the only non-magical explanation. A Divine Designer who existed prior to the universe is simply more plausible than the alternative.

I think 99% of the scientific community would disagree with you there.

(I said 99 because there's always those few batshit insane fuckers around)

That's my take on things--unless you know a better way.

Yeah. I do know of a better way. It's called SCIENCE. It doesn't pretend to know all the answers, rather it tries as hard as it can to work them out. Your method simply leaves us twiddling our thumbs doing absolutely nothing constructive.