(March 17, 2012 at 6:03 pm)mediamogul Wrote: It still sounds like the First Cause and Argument from Design to me. Why couldn't the universe have caused itself to exist in some way we don't yet understand. I just recently watched the episode of Cosmos where Carl Sagan explains how a 3D object would look to a person stuck in 2D and couldn't help but think that we don't know much about our universe. Maybe it would be obvious if we could actually view the world in its multitude of dimensions. The fact that the world needed a "cause" in the classical sense just screams loaded question which, when discussing religion, few are not.
Try reading my post again, I don't think I said anything that should disagree with you. If I gave the impression that I'm somehow arguing for a designer of any kind, the fault lies with my sloppy phraseology.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
