The Magic of Atheism?

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It still sounds like the First Cause and Argument from Design to me. Why couldn't the universe have caused itself to exist in some way we don't yet understand. I just recently watched the episode of Cosmos where Carl Sagan explains how a 3D object would look to a person stuck in 2D and couldn't help but think that we don't know much about our universe. Maybe it would be obvious if we could actually view the world in its multitude of dimensions. The fact that the world needed a "cause" in the classical sense just screams loaded question which, when discussing religion, few are not.

Try reading my post again, I don't think I said anything that should disagree with you. If I gave the impression that I'm somehow arguing for a designer of any kind, the fault lies with my sloppy phraseology.

No I'm certainly not implying that you argued for a Creator. I was disputing that the idea that what happened before the Big Bang is even a gap. Literally it could have caused itself or time could be circular. I'm saying that calling it a gap may be a result of "First Cause" type thinking. I'm saying we may LITERALLY not need the God Hypothesis to explain anything about our universe. It may be a prejudice of language to believe so.