(August 12, 2009 at 5:25 pm)Jon Paul Wrote:(August 12, 2009 at 5:18 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: To say that your god is "is the source of the moral and logical order of the universe" means you are claiming it is the creator of those things you disingenuous [expletive deleted]!No, that is an equivocation on your part which is invalid. It would be only created if God was the creator of the logical and moral order of his uncreated nature, but that is clearly not what I am claiming, and that would be a self-contradiction.
You said your god was the source of moral order in the universe that means it created, the source, the creator ... it means the same thing in this context. Arcanus said that was not so so you are a lying fuck!
Kyu
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