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[Eilonnwy]

Clearly errorneous. If God exists, then the natural world is an effect of his existence.

And I disgree, and since I disagree with your claim, you must prove it. You have done a piss poor job of proving anything so far.

Exactly. The arguments in my thread deals with those effects; let's take it to my thread instead of filling this one.

Makes no difference if it's in this thread or your other thread. You're trying to argue TAG and tie it to Christianity. It's relevant.

If a prayer gets answered or not is wholly irrelevant if you aren't a Christian, because the purpose of prayer is the salvation of your soul, something an atheist doesn't believe exist.

That's your claim. I'm talking about intercessory prayer which is clearly defined as praying to god to get something. It's not irrelevant to an atheist because if it could be proven it exists, we'd have reason to consider god exists, regardless of salvation of the soul.

Thor and FSM are not transcendental Gods, but to the contrary, spatiotemporal and material (ontologically immanental) beings, and none of my arguments arrive at their existence. As for Allah, that is a word for God used by Arab Christians for God. As for the Islamic doctrine of God, it is completely based on the biblical doctrine of God with the exception of some perversions, so with those exceptions, it is simply a reaffirmation of biblical doctrine.

Sorry, you assertions aren't worth shit. Back up your claims. Your TAG argument doesn't differentiate between any proposed god concept. Unless you can clearly prove that it does, your argument is useless.

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Any god does not live up to the biblical doctrine of a transcendent, omniscient, immutable God which is minimally necessary for the logical coherence the TAG concludes the Christian worldview achieves in the transcendence of the conceptual reality of logical truth.

You do a nice job of making contradictions sound logical, but sorry. You fail. You just made a circular argument that essentially says any god does not live up to the biblical god. Only the biblical god lives up to the biblical god. Of course only the biblical god only lives up to the biblical god. You have not proven that TAG proves the biblical god Until you can do that, you're blowing smoke.

BTW, you have to do it without invoking the bible as proof.