RE: Conversion
August 12, 2009 at 9:06 pm
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2009 at 9:15 pm by Jon Paul.)
(August 12, 2009 at 8:57 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: Sorry, you assertions aren't worth shit. Back up your claims. Your TAG argument doesn't differentiate between any proposed god concept. Unless you can clearly prove that it does, your argument is useless.It certainly does, for the conceptual reality of the logical order and logical truth is not transcendent in any other conception of God than a biblical one of a God who is a transcendent omniscient, omnipotent and immutable, intellectual being. Take any of those attributes away and the logical order and truth isn't transcendent. If God is not transcendent, then neither is the logical order. If not omnipotent, then he is not the source for the imposition of the logical order that exists in the universe. If he is not omniscient, then he cannot be the transcendent source of the logical order of all logical truth and the followingly all scientia. If he is not immutable, then the logical order is not properly transcendent either, since it is subject to change. If he is not intellectual, then he cannot be the source for a conceptual reality which only exists insofar as intellect and intellection/conceptionality does. Again, the Christian worldview in affirming the biblical doctrine of God is fully coherent, and any other worldview is only coherent insofar as it borrows from the Christian one.
(August 12, 2009 at 9:04 pm)LukeMC Wrote: Where does the TAG specify a God who kills infants and massacres his people? Or is the bible only half rightWhere did the TAG specify a God who made a world in which there was a deer in a remote forest of Norway that ran over a road December 2, 1987? It didn't, but that is implicit in the biblical doctrine of God that the TAG compares to atheism. As to those actions of God recorded in biblical scripture, that is completely irrelevant to the TAG as it doesn't pertain to either metaethics or metalogic which is TAGs only concern.
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