(March 17, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Eyem4Christ Wrote: If God is not there, then the universe is magic. It came into existence without the fundamental forces in place, either separately or as a grand unified force. The forces would have had to come after—even though they were needed before. That's magical thinking.
I find it endlessly hilarious and ironic that Christians can claim this before saying that the only answer is God magically poofing the universe into existence. But that's not magical thinking.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.