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More Kony Shit
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RE: More Kony Shit
(March 26, 2012 at 7:02 am)Tiberius Wrote: They already give millions of dollars to useful causes. Yes, money is also spent on getting the message out, but can you really argue that it hasn't been extremely effective? Charity is great, but a charity that is virtually unknown will not get enough donations to do anything.

I'll stand corrected when their 'campaign' can be shown to be responsible, even in part, for the arrest and trial of Kony. I just don't expect it to happen - If anyone actually does find the guy and arrest him it sure as hell won't be the US government, it will be the Ugandan government, and it won't be because of this Kony2012 bollocks.

Maybe if they were running a campaign to hire a mercenary group to track him down and detain him I'd be impressed, that could actually get the job done.

Quote:As I said before, if you think that we should just ignore war criminals because they have no power anymore, then you are welcome to hold that opinion.

I never said anything remotely like it, I just said this campaign isn't going to achieve it thus it's a waste of money that will do little more than get the organisers a few nice 1st class flights and some dinners with George Clooney while also making a couple of mechanise producers quite rich.

Quote:I personally think people who commit crimes should be prosecuted, period. We still hunt down and convict Nazi war criminals. Time or loss of power is no reason to give up or not care about previously committed atrocities.

No there isn't a reason to give up, but neither does it make a viral video and a billboard campaign a reasonable solution to the problem.

Explain to me Adrian, how exactly do you see this campaign being effective in bringing about the arrest of Kony?
(March 26, 2012 at 10:48 am)LastPoet Wrote: Regarding this campaign or any other, I do sometimes wonder why people spend so much time shooting them down. If you don't agree with the campaign, its fine, put your money where you see fit.

Why? Because they believe it's a waste of charitable dollars that could be used much more effectively.

Sure, they're free to put their money where they like but that doesn't make it unreasonable to try and point out what a complete and utter waste it is. If you really believe there is something wrong with this approach I should hope I never see you arguing against tithing or any other money-wasting bullshit, least you want to be a hypocrite.

Quote:But investing time and effort undermining the efforts of others seem to be a hobby to many people.

It's no more of a 'hobby' than it is for the people who are 'undermining' the efforts of certain evangelical Christians to build a massive Ark themed funpark.

Quote:I mean, look at that, some guy wasted his time doing a video, instead of doing something useful. Don't agree with kony2012 and/or any other campaign? Okay, just go do some LOLcats or somethin, not a problem for me.

And thunderfoot 'wasted his time' making videos about the banana man instead of doing something useful. I guess he should have done some LOLcats too?

Oh wait, he thought it was useful to demonstrate how stupid Ray Comfort is, the same applies here, these people who are against the Kony2012 campaign are making videos about it precisely because they believe it is a waste of time and money.

Quote:You have to wonder why these people feel the need to demand where other people put their donation money.

Demanded? What a crock.

Quote:And really, I'd wrater see grafitty and/or posters of people fighting a good cause than the usual numbskull ones we have right now done by some hip-hop wannabe.

They're both equally as pointless and equally as reprehensible, they can stick posters on their own damn property to their hearts content but instead they are advocating large-scale graffiti that is going to take the owners of the properties hours to clean up while achieving absolutely nothing of worth.
(March 26, 2012 at 12:09 pm)Shell B Wrote: People do realize that the situation in the DRC is such that Kony could easily replenish his numbers, right?

Oh obviously, he's clearly just decided to stay a broke, impoverished hasbeen when he could easily become a powerful warlord again!

Angel
(March 26, 2012 at 2:34 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Ok, apparently you were serious.

War with Uganda (or any other country) is not mentioned at all in the video, nor is it the point of the video. A war with Iran has been on the cards for years, and I fail to see how a video about Uganda (an African country) is going to make people support a war with Iran (a Middle Eastern country). Not only is there the massive geographical difference, but the entire point of the video is to bring one man and his small band of militants to justice at the International Criminal Court (hence why the ICC is featured in the film). It is not about a military invasion of another country; it is about having the military of non-Ugandan countries help the Ugandan army get rid of one of their worst war criminals. This is more of a peace-keeping mission than anything else, and I'm in complete favour of missions where we don't use our armies to kill innocent civillians, but instead use them to hunt down known criminals and bring them to justice.

Also, this guy claims to have been on YouTube for 2 years, and yet he doesn't think it's possible for a video like this to get 40 million views in a couple of days? Pull the other one. Social media is extremely powerful; there is a reason why so many companies now hire people just to visit reddit or twitter all day. This kind of stuff travels very quickly on the Internet.

Sorry, but my bullshit alarms went off when he started going on about CIA conspiracies.

Yeah that video was complete horse-shit.
(March 26, 2012 at 4:09 pm)Tiberius Wrote: 1) Video sheds light on injustice that most people are unaware of.
2) Millions of people watch video.
3) Millions of people are now aware of injustice, and demand something is done about it.
4) Government listens to will of people (rare, I know, but it happens) and does something.

Here's something just as plausible:

1) Video sheds light on injustice that most people are unaware of.
2) Millions of people watch video.
3) Kony sees the video.
4) Kony feels guilty and turns himself in.
.
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Messages In This Thread
More Kony Shit - by theVOID - March 26, 2012 at 3:49 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 4:47 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by theVOID - March 26, 2012 at 5:59 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 7:02 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by theVOID - March 27, 2012 at 1:06 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 27, 2012 at 1:48 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 27, 2012 at 9:46 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 26, 2012 at 10:48 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by NoMoreFaith - March 26, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by NoMoreFaith - March 26, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 26, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 26, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 26, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 2:49 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by 5thHorseman - March 26, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 26, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by paintpooper - March 27, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 27, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by paintpooper - March 27, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 27, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 27, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 27, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by paintpooper - March 27, 2012 at 3:53 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 27, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by 5thHorseman - March 27, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Autumnlicious - March 27, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 4:10 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 27, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by theVOID - March 29, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Autumnlicious - March 27, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Atheist Anarchist - March 27, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tempus - March 27, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 27, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 28, 2012 at 10:44 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Cinjin - March 27, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 28, 2012 at 11:07 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 28, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 28, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LukeMC - April 2, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - April 2, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LukeMC - April 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tempus - April 3, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by LukeMC - April 3, 2012 at 9:55 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - April 2, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by SavageNerdz - April 3, 2012 at 10:34 am

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