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Are theists by nature simply insecure?
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RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure?
Burden or proof is not a "trap". If someone makes a claim, they have to prove it. If the world worked by people accepting claims without evidence, we'd be in a state of turmoil.

To give you an example: "Pippy, give me all your money and I will double it within a week". If you accept this claim without evidence (such as my investment plan, what guarantee I have in place, etc, then you are risking all your money in the hands of a stranger.

If you say to me, "No Adrian, I don't believe you", then you are rejecting my claim since I have not provided any evidence.

For me to then say "Ok then, prove that I won't" is shifting the burden of proof from me (the claimant) to you (the disbeliever). It is not your responsibility to prove the negative of an argument, and it is a fallacious statement anyway because you cannot prove a negative. Even if you were to find details of my investment plan, there is no stopping me from just running off with your money.

If you make a claim, you have to prove it. Some atheists do walk into their own burden of proof when they claim "there is no god" rather than "I don't believe in god". "There is no god" is a claim, and a negative one at that, thus the burden of proof falls on them to prove the negative, which is impossible.
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Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Darwinian - August 12, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by leo-rcc - August 12, 2009 at 3:14 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by bozo - August 12, 2009 at 3:17 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Dotard - August 12, 2009 at 7:54 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Pippy - August 13, 2009 at 8:02 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Dotard - August 13, 2009 at 8:34 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Pippy - August 13, 2009 at 8:44 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Edwardo Piet - August 13, 2009 at 10:23 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by fr0d0 - August 13, 2009 at 4:34 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Pippy - August 13, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 9:00 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Minimalist - August 13, 2009 at 9:18 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 3:26 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Pippy - August 14, 2009 at 8:32 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Kyuuketsuki - August 14, 2009 at 10:16 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Tiberius - August 14, 2009 at 9:26 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Pippy - August 14, 2009 at 9:29 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Pippy - August 15, 2009 at 7:21 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Tiberius - August 15, 2009 at 7:56 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Pippy - August 15, 2009 at 8:10 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Tiberius - August 15, 2009 at 9:08 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Pippy - August 15, 2009 at 10:35 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Edwardo Piet - August 15, 2009 at 12:20 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by bozo - August 15, 2009 at 7:03 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Pippy - August 16, 2009 at 1:59 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by padraic - August 16, 2009 at 3:25 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Edwardo Piet - August 17, 2009 at 10:09 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Tiberius - August 17, 2009 at 11:02 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Edwardo Piet - August 17, 2009 at 11:04 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by Darwinian - August 17, 2009 at 2:25 pm
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by maxbigwood - August 21, 2009 at 2:08 am
RE: Are theists by nature simply insecure? - by theVOID - August 25, 2009 at 4:35 am

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