RE: Free Will vs Divine Won't - How God Favours Evil
March 29, 2012 at 11:34 pm
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2012 at 11:39 pm by mediamogul.)
(March 29, 2012 at 11:20 pm)C Rod Wrote:(March 29, 2012 at 8:19 am)Faith No More Wrote:C Rod Wrote:Heaven was corrupted, the #1 angel Lucifer with his consciousness and will corrupted and took a third of the angels with him.
Are you trying to defend god by using the very first instance when he sat idle as evil prevailed? If Lucifer corrupted the world, god should have been able to forsee the consequences of Lucifer's actions. Therefore, god could see all of the rape and murder that would result, yet he still stood by doing nothing.
Your god appears to be incompetent or a fairy tale.
I stand with choice and the freedom to exercise said choice to the extent of one's will. God takes that away from everyone or gives us the ability to do only good then i think we cease to by ourselves and even cease to be conscious.
This doesn't really answer the essence of the "why did god allow heaven to be corrupted" argumet and raises another question for me. If people are not bound by their nature, biology, and upbringing then why do some choose good and some choose "evil"? It seems to me as though free will doesn't explain much in the way of why people choose the way that they do. It seems to me that people exist with certain things that effect their supposed free will and cause them to act in a certain way. On another note we are back to saying god couldn't do something, create a situation in which free will exists and where people on choose good. Why even set up the choice in the first place? Why create the rules so that choice is important? Also, to play devil's advocate (sorry, corny I know), Lucifer chose out of independence, a desire for self-determination, courage, and intelligence. Well it's all mythology so I guess I can interpret it any way I choose.
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"All thinking men are atheists." -Ernest Hemmingway
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