(March 30, 2012 at 5:36 am)tackattack Wrote: 7- Yes that would be an accurate description. If we can show that the conscious can input back into the subconscious to a desired change against a current state it demonstrates free will. I think we are all also agreeing that will and identity are both part of the causal chain. So then what are thoughts, memories and concepts? Are they conceptualizations of the physical placement of synapses? That would mean that we have about 1000 billion thoughts we could possibly think that the brain evolved to from genetic code. So how could the human genome (somewhere in the 6 billion bits of information range) form something it couldn’t have the code for?
Consciousness is the illusion created by symbolic conceptualisations of complex collations of information from electrochemical memories and stimuli from prediction centres etc etc, that's my theory more or less.
The self being one of these useful symbols.
(March 30, 2012 at 5:36 am)tackattack Wrote: I still don’t feel that the evolutionary hypothesis that they’re created by the human genome can account for the mind. I’m not sure even 1000 billion of synapses are enough to account for every aspect of every observable phenomenon. If there could be any objective truths they would probably be so divorced from what we use daily for reality (perception) to never even be noticed.
I should clarify, the human genome does not account for the mind, it accounts merely for the structure of the brain and its learning capabilities. What we call the mind, is not truly dualistic, our abilities are learnt, motor control, concept of self etc.
The argument from irreducible complexity is not compelling to me. I find it quite conceivable that evolution over billions of years has created such a well developed framework for this illusion of dual minds.
I agree about objective truth thou, our bodies limit the information that can be received to a massive extent, what we see, what we feel, what we hear. We have remarkably limited senses.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
