RE: Conundrum
March 30, 2012 at 12:10 pm
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2012 at 12:27 pm by Godscreated.)
(March 30, 2012 at 7:03 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(March 30, 2012 at 2:14 am)Godschild Wrote:(March 29, 2012 at 8:04 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: Hell isn't for evildoers, it's for unbelievers.
You can commit as much evil as you like and still get into heaven.
Prove your statement from the scriptures, there is no other place to find the answer for this.
So now you're saying a person can't repent of their crimes and seek forgiveness from jesus.
Make up your mind please.
Yes, they can, sorry misread your statement.
(March 30, 2012 at 8:32 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:(March 30, 2012 at 2:14 am)Godschild Wrote: Think whatever you like, I want discuss points with a senseless person.
Cool mate!grab the woof and a bottle of bubbly and we'll talk!!
Sexy music and we can ALL be 'SENSELESS!'
Got past that type of senselessness long ago, would set and have a beer with you and talk about whatever.
(March 30, 2012 at 8:37 am)NonStampCollector Wrote:(March 30, 2012 at 2:14 am)Godschild Wrote:(March 29, 2012 at 4:54 pm)NonStampCollector Wrote: Kinda shoots down the whole idea of omnipotence then, huh?What does omnipotence have to do with what I said?
Nothing directly, just making an observation. Am I only allowed to bring up a weakness of god when you've explicitly opened the door for it?
Sorry, I really do not know how God's omnipotence has anything to do with this. Please explain in more detail.
(March 30, 2012 at 10:58 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: The thing is that Christians will see Satan as not the punisher of evildoers in Hell, but he is the bad guy who is constantly trying to get God's children to turn against him so that he will have plenty of company in Hell after the end of the world when he is forced to spend eternity there. The point where this falls apart is thinking that somehow Satan turns people away from God, and so makes God punish people for eternity even though he really doesn't want to because he loves them. So I don't know if this makes Satan more powerful than God because for some reason God can't change the system he set up where he sends unbelievers and evildoers to Hell to be tortured for eternity.
Satan does not turn people away from God, God would never allow this (freewill), Satan's power is limited, he can tempt and then each person has a decision to make. The biggest problem I have with people believing Satan gets involved in their lives is this, Satan has bigger fish to fry (no pun intended). People fail because they desire the world over God, rather simple isn't it.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
