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Epicurean Paradox

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RE: Epicurean Paradox

April 8, 2012 at 8:38 pm

I can understand the the reasoning of suffering being the result of free will,except for a couple of quibbles,hardly worth mentioning really:

Free will is NOT a universal Christian doctrine. Because of the doctrine of predestination, some Christian sects deny the existence of free will. Make sense if you also accept the notion of an omniscient God.

Free will does NOT explain the evil done to or suffering endured by the innocent EG children and animals.

In my opinion,the problems of evil and suffering are simply incompatible with the notion of the Abrahamic god with his ascribed infinite qualities.

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Epicurean Paradox - by Drich - March 30, 2012 at 9:26 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by thesummerqueen - March 30, 2012 at 9:29 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Nine - March 30, 2012 at 9:32 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by genkaus - March 30, 2012 at 9:40 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2012 at 9:40 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Ace Otana - March 30, 2012 at 9:55 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by NoMoreFaith - March 30, 2012 at 9:57 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by thesummerqueen - March 30, 2012 at 10:31 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by houseofcantor - March 30, 2012 at 12:29 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Welsh cake - March 30, 2012 at 12:02 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by mediamogul - March 30, 2012 at 12:23 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Faith No More - March 30, 2012 at 2:15 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Tobie - March 30, 2012 at 2:43 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Mister Agenda - March 30, 2012 at 4:03 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Drich - March 30, 2012 at 7:55 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Mister Agenda - April 2, 2012 at 12:20 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by thesummerqueen - March 30, 2012 at 4:15 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Mister Agenda - April 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by padraic - March 30, 2012 at 7:32 pm

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RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Drich - March 30, 2012 at 10:00 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by genkaus - March 31, 2012 at 5:31 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by padraic - March 30, 2012 at 11:04 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Drich - March 31, 2012 at 12:06 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by The Grand Nudger - March 31, 2012 at 1:44 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Welsh cake - March 31, 2012 at 8:35 am

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Drich - March 31, 2012 at 3:50 pm

RE: Epicurean Paradox - by genkaus - March 31, 2012 at 7:34 pm

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RE: Epicurean Paradox - by Drich - April 8, 2012 at 8:38 pm

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