Epicurean Paradox

[Mister Agenda]

This seems to be the problem. You do not seem to understand the meaning of the word in it's current context.

ma·li·cious   /məˈlɪʃəs/ Show Spelled[muh-lish-uhs] Show IPA
adjective
1. full of, characterized by, or showing malice; malevolent; spiteful: malicious gossip.
2. Law . vicious, wanton, or mischievous in motivation or purpose.

The context is the Epicurean Paradox, and this is the definition of evil that applies: causing ruin, pain, or injury.

Actually no it doesn't. It can mean vicious or mischievous motivation, which can be considered spiteful but it can also mean a wanton motivation. What is wanton?

wan·ton   /ˈwɒntn/ Show Spelled[won-tn] Show IPA
adjective
1. done, shown, used, etc., maliciously or unjustifiably: a wanton attack; wanton cruelty.
2. deliberate and without motive or provocation; uncalled-for; headstrong; willful: Why jeopardize your career in such a wanton way?
3. without regard for what is right, just, humane, etc.; careless; reckless: a wanton attacker of religious convictions.
4. sexually lawless or unrestrained; loose; lascivious; lewd: wanton behavior.
5. extravagantly or excessively luxurious, as a person, manner of living, or style.
Did you see it? Deliberate and without motivation or provication. Which make your argument meaningless. Because again as I said from the beginning you do not have to even acknowledge God or His expressed will to be found maliciously outside of it.

The evil we've been talking about from page one is human suffering.

Don't forget the dictionary too. I have a tendency to use words by their given definitions rather than slang interpretation of them.

I find it helpful to take context into account as well.

You misunderstand. God has handed the reigns over to us. If we have been subjected to evil it is because of the nature of the world we have created for ourselves.

I want to know which of us started the earthquake thing. That was just poor planning.

I have a feeling the rest of your post will now be out of context simply because you did not take the time to read/understand what I originally wrote.

Possibly I thought you might actually address evil in the sense intended in the Epicurean Paradox. Darn thread title threw me off.

[quote='Drich' pid='270362' dateline='1334088961']As I pointed out "Evil" is not a thing. therefore your assessment of it was dismissed.

Of course it's not a thing. It's an abstract concept with multiple senses that include both deliberate cruelty and impersonal suffering. How did you arrive at me thinking evil is a thing? Especially when I don't capitalize it like some people I could mention.

[quote='Drich' pid='270362' dateline='1334088961']Evil can only exist in the hearts sentient beings like man.

I know you've gotten some flack about primary and secondary defintions, but sometimes it's the secondary definition that applies.

That means even though you personally proclaim something naturally evil does not mean it qualifies as evil according to the bible.

It qualifies as evil according to the Epicurean Paradox. Natural evil (I didn't invent the term, dude, look it up) applies to the Paradox, and applies better than human evil does. Avoiding the Paradox's terms by substituting biblical definitions doesn't resolve the Paradox.

Why would the God of the universe.. Meaning the God who put in, and maintains all of the natural processes we know of and a universe more that we do not, have to resort to using supernatural means to create?

Beats me, I can't keep track of all the things you guys believe. Christians have believed in a supernatural God for millenia, if you want to change up now because you're smart enough to realize a supernatural God is ridiculous, good for you.

Believing in a supernatural God is a personal misunderstanding not a scriptural one.

I don't believe in any God I've ever heard described. You can think of him as Galactus for all the difference it makes.