RE: The Omni aspects of God
April 14, 2012 at 2:25 am
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2012 at 2:27 am by Drich.)
(April 14, 2012 at 2:18 am)Minimalist Wrote:I think you have missed the bigger point. In that how can you be "reminding us" if what you are reminding us with is inaccurate?Quote:How is it that a group of people who supposedly do not believe in God, have ascribed or adopted these religious terms?
Because jesus freak shitheads show up here regularly and insist that their silly-assed god has all these "attributes."
If you wish to dispute them....take it up with G-C or some of the others
Meanwhile, we will continue to remind the jesus freaks how fucking stupid they sound.
again these are your terms not the bible or God's.
(April 14, 2012 at 2:22 am)TheJackel Wrote: We can just take a moment to address the Fount of Knowledge:
St John of Damascus, The Fount of Knowledge:
Abstract 1:
Quote:
Quote: "The uncreate, the unoriginate, the immortal, the bound- less, the eternal, the immaterial, the good, the creative, the just, the enlightening, the unchangeable, the passionless, the uncircumscribed, the uncontained, the unlimited, the indefi- nable, the invisible, the inconceivable, the wanting nothing, the having absolute power and authority, the life-giving, the almighty, the infinitely powerful, the sanctifying and com- municating, the containing and sustaining all things, and the providing for all all these and the like He possesses by His nature. They are not received from any other source; on the contrary, it is His nature that communicates all good to His own creatures in accordance with the capacity of each."
Abstract 2:
Quote:
Quote: "And yet again, there is His knowing of all things by a simple act of knowing. And there is His distinctly seeing with His divine, all-seeing, and immaterial eye all things at once"
Boundless
Uncontained
Unlimited
Omnipresent
The containing and sustaining of all things
Omniscient
Immaterial
Thus it can be said that such an argument self-collapses in every area of the supposed attributes given when anyone of them is taken out of the equation by another conflicting attribute, or thing (such as ourselves). Especially in the case or state of absolute Omniscience. So here is what it boils down to under information theory:
* I = reference to all the information that gives I an Identity. It's the entire essences of "I am".
So let's see where this entire GOD concept completely falls apart. Especially when concerning "Omniscience".
Quote:1) A boundless GOD? Can a boundless GOD be boundless if you are to claim all of us to be separate individuals? What boundaries lie between GOD being me, and not being me?Basically, This can only lead to Pantheism or stating that I, for example, would be GOD since suggesting otherwise would invalidate all the said attributes suggested to this supposed GOD.
2) If he is uncontained then what separates him from me?
3) If he's without limits, what limits define GOD apart from who I am?..
4) If he is omnipresent, where do I exist?
5) If he contains and sustains all things, would he not be existence itself? Thus am I, and everyone else here not the conscious representations of god, or GOD himself?
6) If he is Omniscient and knows infinitely everything to which is knowable, would he not know me in every infinitely knowable way to where he himself would literally be I, me, or who I am in every infinitely knowable way?
7) If he is immaterial, would he not be made of nothing? Thus how does nothing exist as a person, place, or thing? How does nothing as a substance be the property value of something? How does nothing contain and sustain informational value?
Perhaps you should take the time to actually read the OP. Rather than assume what it says.